A federal employee can sue the federal government for a number of reasons, including discrimination, wrongful termination, and personal injury. [1, 2, 3]
Discrimination [1, 4, 5]
• Discrimination based on race, sex, disability, or other protected characteristic
• Retaliation for reporting misconduct, abuse of authority, or illegal activity
• Unfair or arbitrary termination
Wrongful termination [1, 4, 5]
• Termination for an unfair or arbitrary reason
• Termination in violation of anti-discrimination laws
• Termination in violation of laws prohibiting retaliation against whistleblowers
Personal injury [2, 3]
• Personal injuries, including emotional distress, caused by the negligence of federal employees
• Damage to personal property
• Wrongful death
Other claims non-selection and demotion. [1]
Filing a claim [6]
Federal employees can also file an appeal or grievance to raise allegations of discrimination, reprisal for whistleblowing, and other prohibited personnel practices. [6]
Suing the federal government can be more difficult than suing a private citizen because of the many protections and limitations in the Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA). [7]
Erin, It is a very scary time. Losing your job is a horrible loss. My thoughts are with you. I wish I had more support but this is a horrendous situation for you & all those that work for the government. All the millions of men, women, & children that receive services, aid, health care, disability, social security, education assistance, the list goes on. I in my own way will continue to fight and won't give up. Stay strong as best as you can.
I worked in a fortune 50 company. I had to reduce staff. I found places where people were needed and ultimately kept their job. Reduction in staffing is difficult however, doing it this way is not a corporate way. Many corporations have a full plan to address the reductions. The large corporations I worked for and currently work for don’t do a slash and burn.
You have no idea how I felt or approached reductions. So I am sorry you feel this way but that is your issue to deal with in your head. So thanks for your input but really doesn’t change the issue at hand or the way reductions were handled.
Read the first sentence and stopped. We just ASKED how you felt, and you refused to answer. That tells us all we need to know, crybaby. Good luck. You're going to need it.
I work for VISN 20 and our Network Director already sent out an email. They essentially said "yes we have seen it, no we don't know anything further, please sit tight for more guidance." I doubt we will see guidance until Monday but they are all aware and we will get more correspondence. It's ok if you won't have your email until Monday.
As far as I know our director knows nothing yet. My VA's LGBTQI+ group went rouge and started a safe space signals group and that's how I saw our director's response to the email. I won't be in office until Monday.
Well, if youve been doing a good job then your job is probably safe, if however you have been stealing money from the government by NOT working hard then you should probably worry. Any case you should probably dust off the resume and think about other options.. you could get a new job for more money and that would be great!! Everyone knows that government jobs are a joke anyway..
Erin, I too work at the VA. This July would be 21 years for me. I am just beside myself with this. I started to work at the VA to help the Veterans, now this is the thanks I get? I'm just so upset and worried I'll be out of a job I love.
"attempts to obtain information without proper clearance or need-to-know" is a clear indicator of an insider threat
Clearance levels and need-to-know restrictions are in place for a reason. They protect sensitive information from unauthorized access.Someone trying to circumvent these controls demonstrates a disregard for established security protocols and a potential intent to misuse the information. They are essentially saying, "I don't care about the rules; I want this information anyway."
Done! Anyone have a full list of HR emails of all agencies? I think we could automate something pretty epic 😂😂😂 Something that, hilariously, musk could never do cuz he’s a completely fucking moron and horrible developer and NOT an engineer. $$$$ buying more $$$$$ is ALL he is. Well that and. K addict and predator nazi….
There are also concerns that the emails are getting sent to spam folders. I can’t contain the amount of rage building in my soul for this piece of shit. My son-in-law is an FDIC employee and he is required to grovel for his job via email. Is there no limit to the suffering imposed on federal employees? The demeaning of good people is beyond comprehension.
The pain they are causing your son in law, your family and you is unnecessary and cruel. The anxiety and cruelty they are causing so many federal workers and those of us watching, trying to stand up to them is intentional. They want us scared and worried so they can control us. The shock & awe is to paralyze us into submission. My thoughts are with you and all the federal workers. I promise I won't give up the fight. I am so ticked off every time I read a new bill they are trying to pass. The crap they are doing and our Congress has sold us down the river. I have no other words but wanted you to know there are those of us standing with you.
My heart breaks for all the chaos, uncertainty, stress that's being put on people. Please tell your son-in-law thank you for hanging in there for all of us who know how important his FDIC job is.. the cruelty of all of this is sickening. Bless you both
I am Federal employee and I will hold the line until the end and they escort me out. However, I am starting to get really, really pissed off. I think, not one Federal employee should respond. Will they fire the entire federal government if no one responds? I would like to see that. I also think it may be time for the entire Federal employee workforce to strike. Walk out of the office and protest or every single one call in sick. It's time to take back what belongs to the people.
Leigh Ann, you are correct. If all federal workers walked out, how do they think they could run the government? My daughter works at the VA and she is really pissed off, but she is equally scared. She is 50 years old.
I fully understand as I am a bit older than your daughter and very close to retirement. I also understand her fear very well. However, my fear went up in a poof of smoke when I saw that email on Saturday. A complete government strike isn't really an option due to public safety. Most Federal employees in critical positions wouldn't strike risking public safety or endangerment. Just wishful dreaming and anger typing on my part.
I know that there is no way all the workers would walk. That was just my anger talking. Something has to be done but unfortunately, no one knows what that something is. DameFineHaggis is right. They want to fire the entire workforce. What is their endgame?
I believe the goal is to create as much chaos anger, confusion, and fear as possible to complete the implementation of project 2025. Next steps, by my theory, is to remove the two and move JD Vindictive forward to take their place. In the meantime, things may get much worse unfortunately.
We need to strike. Either call in sick or walk out and protest. It would have to be the ENTIRE Federal workforce though. Enough of this bullshit. They want us out, I say we show them what would happen if the entire workforce didn't show up for work. Power of the people!
There need to be a national strike. No one go to work, no one shop, no one go to school. Just stay home. Strike. Shut this economy down. Money is their god and it's the only thing that these bastards understand.
People who can’t strike can stay with people who have children. Like people who are injured and can’t walk long distances but are still able to move a little.
Like stay with their children. Help support to keep the movement and masses going. I dislocated my knee and long distances is hard, last protest I watched my friends kids. It made sure 7 people could attend.
I can’t imagine the pure stress that these people are under. I guess this is what happens when two CEOs are running your country. They literally do not care about humans. Bottom line only. And to think that people on the other side are delusional enough to think that all of these cuts are going to somehow end up back in the pockets of middle class taxpayers. Keep dreaming.
It’s miserable. Everyone is on edge wondering if we will be the next one let go. Mourning the good ones who were already fired. Wishing there was something we could do or this would stop. In 15 years I’ve never seen morale so low.
This is so true. It’s all anyone can talk about. There’s so much uncertainty and chaos. And leadership doesn’t know anymore than the employees do. The chain of command has been pretty well demolished. It’s like the pandemic all over again, where there’s so much information coming out and you can’t keep it all straight, except worse.
Skyler, doesn’t government correspondence need to come through secure government channels. Twitter isn’t official by any means, so couldn’t it be interpreted as an invalid notification?
My aunts were both federal employees. One was Foreign Service and USAID, and the other was in the CIA. I am grateful neither of them are alive to see this turn of events for federal employees . Their careers were very important to them, and they took great pride in their work. We, as their family, were also proud of them and their dedication to their work. They were both trailblazers. As women, they were trailblazers, and they did a great deal of good for our nation and the world. They would be beside themselves with the way you all are being treated. I don’t understand why the very people who make this country run and who provide essential support to its citizens, are now considered the bad guys. This administration needs to be removed immediately.
Yes. That’s why we all probably have an email from hr@opm.gov waiting for us with the very instructions, my understanding is that it doesn’t have the resignation piece. I will be curious how our leadership handles this and any direction given.
It’s really not fun being federal right now. When I got my job in college, it was “oh that’s a really good job” or “that’s so stable, stick it out and you’ll have a good career” and so on. Now I feel like it’s like you and all your colleagues are lazy and a major burden to the tax payer. When I’ve been doing the work that 4 people used to do and so are others. It’s so wild how the tides have turned and I feel like I have a target on my back living in a red state.
Don’t get me wrong there are efficiencies to find. But it’s not at the employee level. The laws and regulations Congress has put down is part of why things take so long. The other is we have 1 person doing the work of 4 people and there’s only so much time in a day.
I also want to thank your aunts for their service. It’s because of them we were able to do good and women like me could have a chance in this sector.
Skyler, my aunt who was in the Foreign Service was the Chief Personnel Officer in Saigon during the Vietnam War. The story of her departure and escape when Saigon fell is one she never revealed until my son had a family history project in 5th grade. The story is seared into my brain now. Many people don’t realize that many of our federal employees risk danger and possibly death in service of our country. Neither Orange Moron nor Muskrat could navigate the dangers she faced getting out of Saigon! They need to go, and each of you needs a significant raise for dealing with this anxiety and fear! Thank you for your service!
Do we have to be a federal employee to reply to HR@opm.gov?
I’m not a FE, but I’ve had norovirus for the last week and would happily describe what I’ve accomplished - I’d love to give him an up close description of what’s come out of my sick body.
They do not work for him!!! He’s not their boss! This must stop now enough is enough and I for one am extremely sick and tired of this guy trying to run our government!!
Why do we even care with Elon is saying when the admin said he is only an advisor to the president? Right? They said he doesn’t have power and is not a part of DOGE? So why does he keep tweeting this nonsense. I would ignore and consult legal team and or union.
I did not say that it is only probationary. You did not understand. I said they are going to check which of the remaining probationary employees are still employed and who did not reply, so they will go after them.
I'm not sure how to stop them but these men and women who work for the government work so hard and most of them just want to make a difference in the world...and this Administration is treating them like garbage. My husband has worked for the government for 37 years for this????
I don’t know how to get this out there, but the American Foreign Service Association posted a link that’s basically a 💙Federal Employee Virtual Bug Out Bag💙. It lists documents you should collect, steps you need to take, and even an outline on how to send a Grievance.
And all of these cuts are only about 20% of the total government spending. It’s just a drop in the bucket. He wants spacex to be the new NASA and he wants to take all of the money to inject into his companies and get rid of all of the fed complaints that he has outstanding. He owns the man in the White House.
All federal employees have to sue tf out of them
“Sue” who exactly?
A federal employee can sue the federal government for a number of reasons, including discrimination, wrongful termination, and personal injury. [1, 2, 3]
Discrimination [1, 4, 5]
• Discrimination based on race, sex, disability, or other protected characteristic
• Retaliation for reporting misconduct, abuse of authority, or illegal activity
• Unfair or arbitrary termination
Wrongful termination [1, 4, 5]
• Termination for an unfair or arbitrary reason
• Termination in violation of anti-discrimination laws
• Termination in violation of laws prohibiting retaliation against whistleblowers
Personal injury [2, 3]
• Personal injuries, including emotional distress, caused by the negligence of federal employees
• Damage to personal property
• Wrongful death
Other claims non-selection and demotion. [1]
Filing a claim [6]
Federal employees can also file an appeal or grievance to raise allegations of discrimination, reprisal for whistleblowing, and other prohibited personnel practices. [6]
Suing the federal government can be more difficult than suing a private citizen because of the many protections and limitations in the Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA). [7]
[1] https://fedemploymentattorneys.com/legal-blog/can-a-federal-employee-sue-their-employer/[2] https://saclaw.org/resource_library/claims-against-the-government/[3] https://puschnguyen.com/unveiling-the-legal-options-can-you-sue-the-government-for-emotional-distress/[4] https://www.naacpldf.org/five-rights-federal-workers/[5] https://www.dcemploymentattorney.com/practice-areas/wrongful-termination-2/[6] https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/employee-relations/employee-rights-appeals/[7] https://www.torhoermanlaw.com/can-you-sue-the-government.
Sue the sobs.
Can you please not spam this thread? It’s really annoying.
I’ve reported them to Aaron. And tried to block several times. They are in several dem substacks.
I work at the VA and am terrified of losing my job. I’ve been there 10 years and love my job and my Veterans.
Erin, It is a very scary time. Losing your job is a horrible loss. My thoughts are with you. I wish I had more support but this is a horrendous situation for you & all those that work for the government. All the millions of men, women, & children that receive services, aid, health care, disability, social security, education assistance, the list goes on. I in my own way will continue to fight and won't give up. Stay strong as best as you can.
Thank you. I haven’t lost my job yet. Just worried about what is coming
Do you react this way when people lose their job in the corporate sphere?
I worked in a fortune 50 company. I had to reduce staff. I found places where people were needed and ultimately kept their job. Reduction in staffing is difficult however, doing it this way is not a corporate way. Many corporations have a full plan to address the reductions. The large corporations I worked for and currently work for don’t do a slash and burn.
Yes, many of us have done staff reduction, and at much higher levels than you have.
The question remains: did you REACT THIS WAY when people got slashed and burned in corporate?
No. Because you are self-absorbed and think it's only real when it happens to you. This is why no one cares.
You have no idea how I felt or approached reductions. So I am sorry you feel this way but that is your issue to deal with in your head. So thanks for your input but really doesn’t change the issue at hand or the way reductions were handled.
Read the first sentence and stopped. We just ASKED how you felt, and you refused to answer. That tells us all we need to know, crybaby. Good luck. You're going to need it.
My VA is waiting to see what VACO says about the email.
I can’t see any emails until I get to work on Monday. So the VA has responded already? I’m in Northern California. Small rual VA clinic
I work for VISN 20 and our Network Director already sent out an email. They essentially said "yes we have seen it, no we don't know anything further, please sit tight for more guidance." I doubt we will see guidance until Monday but they are all aware and we will get more correspondence. It's ok if you won't have your email until Monday.
As far as I know our director knows nothing yet. My VA's LGBTQI+ group went rouge and started a safe space signals group and that's how I saw our director's response to the email. I won't be in office until Monday.
Oh thank you for providing a safe space for those Veterans. I’m so upset how things are being handled at the VA. I’m glad to see a bright spot 💙🇺🇸
Yes, Kristi! this is exactly how you do it.
Where in Northern California?
I'm terrified for our veterans!
Thank you for your service, Son , nephew, Grandson and Great grandson of veterans 🙏
Well, if youve been doing a good job then your job is probably safe, if however you have been stealing money from the government by NOT working hard then you should probably worry. Any case you should probably dust off the resume and think about other options.. you could get a new job for more money and that would be great!! Everyone knows that government jobs are a joke anyway..
Erin, I too work at the VA. This July would be 21 years for me. I am just beside myself with this. I started to work at the VA to help the Veterans, now this is the thanks I get? I'm just so upset and worried I'll be out of a job I love.
Thank you for what you do. I wish you the best.
"attempts to obtain information without proper clearance or need-to-know" is a clear indicator of an insider threat
Clearance levels and need-to-know restrictions are in place for a reason. They protect sensitive information from unauthorized access.Someone trying to circumvent these controls demonstrates a disregard for established security protocols and a potential intent to misuse the information. They are essentially saying, "I don't care about the rules; I want this information anyway."
I took the opportunity to send an email to hr@opm.gov. Not that I’m a federal employee.
Just sent a spam to that email 🤘🏽
😂😂😂 I think everyone who reads this should do the same!
Done! Anyone have a full list of HR emails of all agencies? I think we could automate something pretty epic 😂😂😂 Something that, hilariously, musk could never do cuz he’s a completely fucking moron and horrible developer and NOT an engineer. $$$$ buying more $$$$$ is ALL he is. Well that and. K addict and predator nazi….
It’s hr1@opm.gov through hr19@opm.gov
This one us used within HHS:
0000236ee1ea2718-dmarc-request@list.nih.gov
I just did the same. Flood the email inbox!
Thank you
Honestly that is pretty genius, just make sure you use your spam email or fake account so it doesn’t trace back to you.
They have multiple emails.
Then we find a way to spam them all
So it’s looking like so far it’s hr1@opm.gov going through to hr19@opm.gov according to some federal employees on Instagram
This is the one the used for HHS employees:
0000236ee1ea2718-dmarc-request@list.nih.gov
There are also concerns that the emails are getting sent to spam folders. I can’t contain the amount of rage building in my soul for this piece of shit. My son-in-law is an FDIC employee and he is required to grovel for his job via email. Is there no limit to the suffering imposed on federal employees? The demeaning of good people is beyond comprehension.
The pain they are causing your son in law, your family and you is unnecessary and cruel. The anxiety and cruelty they are causing so many federal workers and those of us watching, trying to stand up to them is intentional. They want us scared and worried so they can control us. The shock & awe is to paralyze us into submission. My thoughts are with you and all the federal workers. I promise I won't give up the fight. I am so ticked off every time I read a new bill they are trying to pass. The crap they are doing and our Congress has sold us down the river. I have no other words but wanted you to know there are those of us standing with you.
Thank you so much for your reply. It truly means a lot to know there are many empathetic to suffering that is occurring in such a huge scale.
Nancy, I'm not a federal employee, but I'm with you. Boiling rage.
My heart breaks for all the chaos, uncertainty, stress that's being put on people. Please tell your son-in-law thank you for hanging in there for all of us who know how important his FDIC job is.. the cruelty of all of this is sickening. Bless you both
I am Federal employee and I will hold the line until the end and they escort me out. However, I am starting to get really, really pissed off. I think, not one Federal employee should respond. Will they fire the entire federal government if no one responds? I would like to see that. I also think it may be time for the entire Federal employee workforce to strike. Walk out of the office and protest or every single one call in sick. It's time to take back what belongs to the people.
Leigh Ann, you are correct. If all federal workers walked out, how do they think they could run the government? My daughter works at the VA and she is really pissed off, but she is equally scared. She is 50 years old.
I fully understand as I am a bit older than your daughter and very close to retirement. I also understand her fear very well. However, my fear went up in a poof of smoke when I saw that email on Saturday. A complete government strike isn't really an option due to public safety. Most Federal employees in critical positions wouldn't strike risking public safety or endangerment. Just wishful dreaming and anger typing on my part.
I know that there is no way all the workers would walk. That was just my anger talking. Something has to be done but unfortunately, no one knows what that something is. DameFineHaggis is right. They want to fire the entire workforce. What is their endgame?
I believe the goal is to create as much chaos anger, confusion, and fear as possible to complete the implementation of project 2025. Next steps, by my theory, is to remove the two and move JD Vindictive forward to take their place. In the meantime, things may get much worse unfortunately.
Back in my day to protest they had sit ins. Workers sat on the floor and wouldn’t leave
They want to fire the entire federal workforce. The goal is to get rid of all of us one way or another. A strike gives them the excuse they need.
Guys I’m so serious we need to actually do something. Sharing and videos and calling isn’t slowing them down.
We need to strike. Either call in sick or walk out and protest. It would have to be the ENTIRE Federal workforce though. Enough of this bullshit. They want us out, I say we show them what would happen if the entire workforce didn't show up for work. Power of the people!
There need to be a national strike. No one go to work, no one shop, no one go to school. Just stay home. Strike. Shut this economy down. Money is their god and it's the only thing that these bastards understand.
There is a buy nothing on Feb 28
We need more. One day is not enough.
People who can’t strike can stay with people who have children. Like people who are injured and can’t walk long distances but are still able to move a little.
Like stay with their children. Help support to keep the movement and masses going. I dislocated my knee and long distances is hard, last protest I watched my friends kids. It made sure 7 people could attend.
Wouldn't work. That is exactly what they want.
I’m ready 💙
I’m ready too💙
The union currently said to not take action yet. This is another scare tactic
I can’t imagine the pure stress that these people are under. I guess this is what happens when two CEOs are running your country. They literally do not care about humans. Bottom line only. And to think that people on the other side are delusional enough to think that all of these cuts are going to somehow end up back in the pockets of middle class taxpayers. Keep dreaming.
It’s miserable. Everyone is on edge wondering if we will be the next one let go. Mourning the good ones who were already fired. Wishing there was something we could do or this would stop. In 15 years I’ve never seen morale so low.
What’s worse , all this harassment is distracting and disorganizing the workforce from the mission . We are less safe because of these actions .
This is so true. It’s all anyone can talk about. There’s so much uncertainty and chaos. And leadership doesn’t know anymore than the employees do. The chain of command has been pretty well demolished. It’s like the pandemic all over again, where there’s so much information coming out and you can’t keep it all straight, except worse.
Skyler, doesn’t government correspondence need to come through secure government channels. Twitter isn’t official by any means, so couldn’t it be interpreted as an invalid notification?
My aunts were both federal employees. One was Foreign Service and USAID, and the other was in the CIA. I am grateful neither of them are alive to see this turn of events for federal employees . Their careers were very important to them, and they took great pride in their work. We, as their family, were also proud of them and their dedication to their work. They were both trailblazers. As women, they were trailblazers, and they did a great deal of good for our nation and the world. They would be beside themselves with the way you all are being treated. I don’t understand why the very people who make this country run and who provide essential support to its citizens, are now considered the bad guys. This administration needs to be removed immediately.
My thoughts are with you and your colleagues.
Yes. That’s why we all probably have an email from hr@opm.gov waiting for us with the very instructions, my understanding is that it doesn’t have the resignation piece. I will be curious how our leadership handles this and any direction given.
It’s really not fun being federal right now. When I got my job in college, it was “oh that’s a really good job” or “that’s so stable, stick it out and you’ll have a good career” and so on. Now I feel like it’s like you and all your colleagues are lazy and a major burden to the tax payer. When I’ve been doing the work that 4 people used to do and so are others. It’s so wild how the tides have turned and I feel like I have a target on my back living in a red state.
Don’t get me wrong there are efficiencies to find. But it’s not at the employee level. The laws and regulations Congress has put down is part of why things take so long. The other is we have 1 person doing the work of 4 people and there’s only so much time in a day.
I also want to thank your aunts for their service. It’s because of them we were able to do good and women like me could have a chance in this sector.
Skyler, my aunt who was in the Foreign Service was the Chief Personnel Officer in Saigon during the Vietnam War. The story of her departure and escape when Saigon fell is one she never revealed until my son had a family history project in 5th grade. The story is seared into my brain now. Many people don’t realize that many of our federal employees risk danger and possibly death in service of our country. Neither Orange Moron nor Muskrat could navigate the dangers she faced getting out of Saigon! They need to go, and each of you needs a significant raise for dealing with this anxiety and fear! Thank you for your service!
Valid point.
Do we have to be a federal employee to reply to HR@opm.gov?
I’m not a FE, but I’ve had norovirus for the last week and would happily describe what I’ve accomplished - I’d love to give him an up close description of what’s come out of my sick body.
"See attachments"
Nah, embed that shit. Literally.
They do not work for him!!! He’s not their boss! This must stop now enough is enough and I for one am extremely sick and tired of this guy trying to run our government!!
Why do we even care with Elon is saying when the admin said he is only an advisor to the president? Right? They said he doesn’t have power and is not a part of DOGE? So why does he keep tweeting this nonsense. I would ignore and consult legal team and or union.
They will check if the remaining probationary employees reply or not.
It isn’t just probationary. Appears to be all.
Woah . So insane. I hate this timeline … twilight zone
I did not say that it is only probationary. You did not understand. I said they are going to check which of the remaining probationary employees are still employed and who did not reply, so they will go after them.
Yep my husband is a federal employee and he got this email and I'm sooo mad!!
I'm not sure how to stop them but these men and women who work for the government work so hard and most of them just want to make a difference in the world...and this Administration is treating them like garbage. My husband has worked for the government for 37 years for this????
Oh no! This is so awful. I am so sorry for you and your husband. I am sorry for every govt employee right now! How do we stop these lunatics.
Strike
I don’t know how to get this out there, but the American Foreign Service Association posted a link that’s basically a 💙Federal Employee Virtual Bug Out Bag💙. It lists documents you should collect, steps you need to take, and even an outline on how to send a Grievance.
https://afsa.org/virtual-go-bag
Thank you so much for this. I know how I’m going to spend my Sunday.,
BUT HER EMAILS
Trump told Elon to bear down go harder ...so he is. He's burning down the whole fucking house to kill a spider.
And all of these cuts are only about 20% of the total government spending. It’s just a drop in the bucket. He wants spacex to be the new NASA and he wants to take all of the money to inject into his companies and get rid of all of the fed complaints that he has outstanding. He owns the man in the White House.