This man has lost all sense of reality. He is so full of bigotry and hate that he can’t stop trying to hurt people that don’t look like him. Congressional Republicans have failed to uphold their oaths of office. They must be removed and replaced.
I’ve been there about five years ago, there’s no possible way. It’s crumbling, electrical, plumbing is probably from the 70’s and hardly capable of housing what he plans
That’s right I was there last year and it would take forever to rebuild it and it was closed after 3 men escaped. They said no one was ever supposed to escape but 3 men did. He would never be able to fix and rebuild it
I thought the same. I’ve seen documentaries on Alcatraz and the whole thing is in disrepair. The sea water salt eats away at the concrete and steel. He’s an idiot
I’ve toured it. It’s a museum. There is no way it is anywhere near being a modern facility. The island is also now a bird sanctuary, not that nature matters to this crook in the least.
Let’s let Gavin say yes and charge them $80 billion dollars and fund Social Security and all the other stuff they gutted! Trust me, no one will be the wiser!! He is aware it’s in California, right?
Been there and it was totally uninhabitable. There is no way it could be brought up to standards to house prisoners without beaucoup bucks. It’s part of the National Park system last I knew. Another smoke screen to deter us from what’s going on.
Exactly. He also posted that other countries are stealing our movie making so he’s putting 100% tariffs on movies so that they are made here. He’s insane!!!
It’s a museum as part of the National Parks Service. It’ll be interesting to see how he deals with the conflict of defunding NPS and at the same time trying to get this up and running for his brain fart objective.
Revitalizing Alcatraz, specifically the main prison building, is expected to take several years and cost millions of dollars. The current structural upgrade project, including the stabilization and rehabilitation of the main prison building, is projected to be completed by the fall of 2027. The cost estimate for this specific project is around $48.6 million. Additionally, a separate project to stabilize the 1939 Alcatraz Island wharf is expected to be completed in the winter of 2025, with a cost estimate of $40,231,04
I moved to Los Angeles five years ago, but for 30 years previous that was my go to place for company. It’s so rich in history. It used to be a park Ranger talking tour and walking tour now they give you headphones and you just walk yourself. It’s a self tour and there’s always the next inmate or there was until I left.
It's been closed since early 1970's. AIM (American Indian Movement) invaded it and holed up for quite awhile. (want to say at least 6 months). With that said, I'm sure it's filled to the brim with lead paint and asbestos, no central AC, no modern data and communications, etc that is required in modern prisons. It would probably be cheaper to demolish existing buildings and rebuild.
It was closed in 1963 and the were massive sit in and protest by Native Americans. They wanted their land back. The government decided to make it a National Park.
Thanks for google reference. I was just going by memory and it was over 50 yrs ago. Native American AIM members went out to the island and stayed for months protesting the land grab of the United States as a whole. I consider that more than a "sit in"
Ha! Do you honestly think the 🍊🤡 cares if there’s lead paint and no AC? He’ll spin it as “oh they’re have that big beautiful ocean breeze to cool them” … he’s so insane
I’m sure he doesn’t care, he’s the one mentioning to do it. Lawyers and judges will care though and he’ll get shut down on it just like the other times he went against laws.
The amount needed to bring this relic up to any kind of code is to infinity and beyond, especially with the tariffs on everything needed to do so. Pipe dream!
I googled it says very little chance it’s not realistic due to high operating costs, structure issues, and the prisons existing role as a major tourist attraction. It was expensive to operate, even when it was a prison and cost would be even higher today due to infrastructure upgrades and maintenance. The islands buildings have deteriorated overtime requiring extensive renovations and repairs. The prison escape roof reputation has been debunked, and the islands location makes it difficult to maintain secure operations and possess challenges for waste management and sewage disposal.
There was a man on the news saying it’s impossible to open Alcatraz there’s no water they would have to take it over by boat, no electricity no heat. He said they closed it because it would cost to much to fix so they built a new prison on land.
🤔Hey! Remember many environmental laws have been scrapped: Trump may not have to bring as much up-to-date as some think are needed. I think Trump is doing this because his "stash them in El Salvador policy without due process" isn't getting a good reception from even the Judges he appointed!
Here's another fun thing to think about, though: Remember when Trump was musing that it might be hard to choose between electrocuted in a boat v. being eaten by sharks in the waters in which the boat is? Maybe to deter prison escapes from Alcatraz populate the waters with sharks in a mote around the island and have Trump visit in a boat with an undiscovered wiring fault to celebrate the ribbon cutting. "Oopsie!" (Oh I forgot; maybe Trump would arrive by helicopter. Maybe because he depopulated / partially defunded the FAA there might be an unfortunate crash. "Oopsie!" there too.)
Anyway to return to a semblance of gravitas: Yes, it would be hard, time consuming, expensive, take a really long time to have proper due process before a rendition process to El Salvador or anywhere or even for plain old deportation. So here are my suggestions as a lawyer:
-President Trump and friends: Actually do the hard work of proper investigations first! Has the alleged illegal alien, hard core criminal, gang member actually committed a crime for which he / she he / she is deportable? Are they actually illegal, or is there a court order preventing their deportation anywhere or to a specific country? Is he / she a US citizen or otherwise properly / permissibly in this Country? Are they actually a gang member? Is that 2 year old actually a gang member, had committed a crime for which he / she is deportable, been represented by a lawyer and guardian ad litem if their parents aren't around? You get the drift: Trump and enablers start thinking rationally and not like criminals yourselves and stop putting on a big PR "performative" show.
Maybe after proper investigation and proper winnowing down to good cases to prosecute there won't be so many to try in court. Maybe if Pres. Trump doesn't act like judge and jury sending people cruelly to El Salvador but instead sends real criminals back to countries with the rule of law for proper incarceration, then he might even have some prisoners stipulate to leaving the country without the trouble of a trial. Plea bargains are made all the time in criminal courts where rights are waived and the criminal is deported without fuss, muss, bother, great expense, or years of legal cases for Trump et al to defend his / their own unconstitutional actions.
Oh and "King Trump": You know how that darned Oath you've taken twice to protect, preserve and defend the Constitution? You should not only pay attention to the Oath--BTW one must swear to of affirm when taking an Oath because they are serious! -- but also try reading the Constitution as a whole and in all of its pesky parts other than just Second Amendment gun rights for militias. Guess what you'll find that's in the news a lot? A requirement for DUE PROCESS before life and liberty and property may be taken away AND that JOURNALISTS and many others in this country have rights too, including babies born here of non-citizen mothers!
Why do I stress the Constitution? Because if you knew it you might know that many of your Executive Orders were bound to fail from minute one... (So your time could be freed up up you just would stick with your practical and non-tyrannical promises to lower grocery prices on Day One. I'd be happy for you to treat any price gougers a little more tyrannically since when you ruined the CFPB you got rid of employees whose job it was to protect and advocate for your citizens consumers so they would not be "gouged".)
Sooo, he was once faced with possible jail time and so now he’s on a mission to imprison as many people as possible? Clearly this feeds into his personal power trip, but I’m guessing that it also is for his friends in the corporate run prisons industry.
He could go there now as a tourist. And then maybe while touring a cell, ooops, this one locks only from the outside. ... now where did that key go? Oh well, have a nice day."
Trump cannot unilaterally reopen Alcatraz as a prison. It’s a protected national landmark run by the National Park Service, and reopening it would require an act of Congress, environmental reviews, massive funding, and major legal hurdles. In short: it’s political theater, not policy.
Yes, but it's in the Bay on a rock and you need the City to get to The Rock. Unless the Feds plan to go in and out via ship. That would be soooo economical. But - this will never happen; it's just today's outrage du jour.
Congress will give him anything he wants… however, trump will decide it’s too difficult and takes up too much of his tiny brain power to bother with soon enough!
Alcatraz Island is now a beautiful, desolate place, smothered in wildflowers, so of course Donny 2 Dolls wants to stuff it full of prisoners again. The facility was closed in 1963 after 29 years of operation, because of its excessive expenses and crumbling infrastructure.
Will he and his administration be moving in?
This man has lost all sense of reality. He is so full of bigotry and hate that he can’t stop trying to hurt people that don’t look like him. Congressional Republicans have failed to uphold their oaths of office. They must be removed and replaced.
I’ve been there about five years ago, there’s no possible way. It’s crumbling, electrical, plumbing is probably from the 70’s and hardly capable of housing what he plans
That’s right I was there last year and it would take forever to rebuild it and it was closed after 3 men escaped. They said no one was ever supposed to escape but 3 men did. He would never be able to fix and rebuild it
This is who he has been all along!!! You can only hide behind a mask for so long....
And just how much will this little project cost us?
I thought the same. I’ve seen documentaries on Alcatraz and the whole thing is in disrepair. The sea water salt eats away at the concrete and steel. He’s an idiot
I’ve toured it. It’s a museum. There is no way it is anywhere near being a modern facility. The island is also now a bird sanctuary, not that nature matters to this crook in the least.
boggles the mind
Yes, it’s very archaic. It would cost a fortune to turn it back into any kind of prison.
Let’s let Gavin say yes and charge them $80 billion dollars and fund Social Security and all the other stuff they gutted! Trust me, no one will be the wiser!! He is aware it’s in California, right?
It was part of the National Park System. Part of Federal Prison system before that..so not sure Gov Newsome could do anything about it.
I lived in California all my life and went to college in SF.
I like the way you think! 🤔 and thank you! I needed that chuckle 🤭
Been there and it was totally uninhabitable. There is no way it could be brought up to standards to house prisoners without beaucoup bucks. It’s part of the National Park system last I knew. Another smoke screen to deter us from what’s going on.
Exactly. He also posted that other countries are stealing our movie making so he’s putting 100% tariffs on movies so that they are made here. He’s insane!!!
Yep he is definitely an idiot he does not know what he's doing
It’s a museum as part of the National Parks Service. It’ll be interesting to see how he deals with the conflict of defunding NPS and at the same time trying to get this up and running for his brain fart objective.
+2
Revitalizing Alcatraz, specifically the main prison building, is expected to take several years and cost millions of dollars. The current structural upgrade project, including the stabilization and rehabilitation of the main prison building, is projected to be completed by the fall of 2027. The cost estimate for this specific project is around $48.6 million. Additionally, a separate project to stabilize the 1939 Alcatraz Island wharf is expected to be completed in the winter of 2025, with a cost estimate of $40,231,04
The likelihood of this happening is less than 10% IMHO.
I moved to Los Angeles five years ago, but for 30 years previous that was my go to place for company. It’s so rich in history. It used to be a park Ranger talking tour and walking tour now they give you headphones and you just walk yourself. It’s a self tour and there’s always the next inmate or there was until I left.
I wish these guys would move in
Not going to happen. No one is going to reopen Alcatraz as a prison. This is just more distraction from a blithering idiot. Let’s move on.
It’s a museum and not functional
A ton, it originally closed becuase it was so expensive to have there
But hey. We are saving money. 🫣
SO MUCH MONEY! I mean he said how cheap groceries and gas are on Truth Social, so it must be true right?
It's not. It's not physically possible.
It's been closed since early 1970's. AIM (American Indian Movement) invaded it and holed up for quite awhile. (want to say at least 6 months). With that said, I'm sure it's filled to the brim with lead paint and asbestos, no central AC, no modern data and communications, etc that is required in modern prisons. It would probably be cheaper to demolish existing buildings and rebuild.
It was closed in 1963 and the were massive sit in and protest by Native Americans. They wanted their land back. The government decided to make it a National Park.
Thanks for google reference. I was just going by memory and it was over 50 yrs ago. Native American AIM members went out to the island and stayed for months protesting the land grab of the United States as a whole. I consider that more than a "sit in"
Ha! Do you honestly think the 🍊🤡 cares if there’s lead paint and no AC? He’ll spin it as “oh they’re have that big beautiful ocean breeze to cool them” … he’s so insane
This is just a carrot. The man is diverting attention or he needs to be committed.
Both are true absolutely agree.
I’m sure he doesn’t care, he’s the one mentioning to do it. Lawyers and judges will care though and he’ll get shut down on it just like the other times he went against laws.
Absolutely he’ll get shut down. He’s insane. All of this nonsense is insane.
No water or sewer, either. Maybe he can turn it into the next trump hotel!
The amount needed to bring this relic up to any kind of code is to infinity and beyond, especially with the tariffs on everything needed to do so. Pipe dream!
Yep, the old tale of government paying $50 for a pair of pliers will become true!
Nothing!! Because all of the money DOGE saved. 😂
No, this POS and his Administration need to be deported to El Salvador and left to rot in separate cells.
Yes. After they argue their case in court before a jury of their peers.
Due process.🙏💪💐🇺🇸❤️
How quickly their belief in ‘due process’ would change.
My thoughts exactly!
I googled it says very little chance it’s not realistic due to high operating costs, structure issues, and the prisons existing role as a major tourist attraction. It was expensive to operate, even when it was a prison and cost would be even higher today due to infrastructure upgrades and maintenance. The islands buildings have deteriorated overtime requiring extensive renovations and repairs. The prison escape roof reputation has been debunked, and the islands location makes it difficult to maintain secure operations and possess challenges for waste management and sewage disposal.
He’s a total and utterly complete moron.
There was a man on the news saying it’s impossible to open Alcatraz there’s no water they would have to take it over by boat, no electricity no heat. He said they closed it because it would cost to much to fix so they built a new prison on land.
It’s just a distraction. That’s all it is. He wants you to look over there while he’s doing crazy crap over here.
🤔Hey! Remember many environmental laws have been scrapped: Trump may not have to bring as much up-to-date as some think are needed. I think Trump is doing this because his "stash them in El Salvador policy without due process" isn't getting a good reception from even the Judges he appointed!
Here's another fun thing to think about, though: Remember when Trump was musing that it might be hard to choose between electrocuted in a boat v. being eaten by sharks in the waters in which the boat is? Maybe to deter prison escapes from Alcatraz populate the waters with sharks in a mote around the island and have Trump visit in a boat with an undiscovered wiring fault to celebrate the ribbon cutting. "Oopsie!" (Oh I forgot; maybe Trump would arrive by helicopter. Maybe because he depopulated / partially defunded the FAA there might be an unfortunate crash. "Oopsie!" there too.)
Anyway to return to a semblance of gravitas: Yes, it would be hard, time consuming, expensive, take a really long time to have proper due process before a rendition process to El Salvador or anywhere or even for plain old deportation. So here are my suggestions as a lawyer:
-President Trump and friends: Actually do the hard work of proper investigations first! Has the alleged illegal alien, hard core criminal, gang member actually committed a crime for which he / she he / she is deportable? Are they actually illegal, or is there a court order preventing their deportation anywhere or to a specific country? Is he / she a US citizen or otherwise properly / permissibly in this Country? Are they actually a gang member? Is that 2 year old actually a gang member, had committed a crime for which he / she is deportable, been represented by a lawyer and guardian ad litem if their parents aren't around? You get the drift: Trump and enablers start thinking rationally and not like criminals yourselves and stop putting on a big PR "performative" show.
Maybe after proper investigation and proper winnowing down to good cases to prosecute there won't be so many to try in court. Maybe if Pres. Trump doesn't act like judge and jury sending people cruelly to El Salvador but instead sends real criminals back to countries with the rule of law for proper incarceration, then he might even have some prisoners stipulate to leaving the country without the trouble of a trial. Plea bargains are made all the time in criminal courts where rights are waived and the criminal is deported without fuss, muss, bother, great expense, or years of legal cases for Trump et al to defend his / their own unconstitutional actions.
Oh and "King Trump": You know how that darned Oath you've taken twice to protect, preserve and defend the Constitution? You should not only pay attention to the Oath--BTW one must swear to of affirm when taking an Oath because they are serious! -- but also try reading the Constitution as a whole and in all of its pesky parts other than just Second Amendment gun rights for militias. Guess what you'll find that's in the news a lot? A requirement for DUE PROCESS before life and liberty and property may be taken away AND that JOURNALISTS and many others in this country have rights too, including babies born here of non-citizen mothers!
Why do I stress the Constitution? Because if you knew it you might know that many of your Executive Orders were bound to fail from minute one... (So your time could be freed up up you just would stick with your practical and non-tyrannical promises to lower grocery prices on Day One. I'd be happy for you to treat any price gougers a little more tyrannically since when you ruined the CFPB you got rid of employees whose job it was to protect and advocate for your citizens consumers so they would not be "gouged".)
I hope so
Sooo, he was once faced with possible jail time and so now he’s on a mission to imprison as many people as possible? Clearly this feeds into his personal power trip, but I’m guessing that it also is for his friends in the corporate run prisons industry.
He's making sure he gets a cell with a view. [The view will be all us liberals living in a Sanctuary City!]
I came here to say the same thing!
Isn’t he threatening the judges now? He mentioned judges. So is he putting judges in there too?
yeah to me this whole post sounds like he wants to make it into a prison for judges he does not like.
It’s never going to happen. It can’t be done. If it was possible, don’t you think it would still be in use? The salt water corrodes everything.
They should be made to stay there before they send real humans there!!!
Real humans go there everyday ….they are called tourists!!
When all is crumbling around you, throw another deflection out there to change the subject.
Exactly.
THIS
Just about every single one of his cabinet members are repeat offenders. Funny how his rants and threats apply to us but not to him..
They do. Usually, whatever he says are projections.
At least it’s in ‘amurica’. I hope no one tells him about the super max prison. We will need those beds for his regime.
How many dolls will he get there😳
I was wondering the same thing!! Lol!
Right, LOL?? 🤣
Yeah because that's our biggest problem right now in this country. You should fix the prisons that you have open right now maybe. He's ridiculous.
The way the economy is headed, he could use the empty shopping malls.
I pray that he ends up in Alcatraz if they reopen it
He could go there now as a tourist. And then maybe while touring a cell, ooops, this one locks only from the outside. ... now where did that key go? Oh well, have a nice day."
And he could have 2 dolls
Let’s make sure it the one Al Capone was in!
That would be perfect because they have so much in common. Al's not responsible for as many deaths, though. But the tax evasion thing - wheelhouse !
Looking forward to my tax dollars going to reopening an old prison that was originally closed for being too expensive.
Government Efficiency at its best.
Oh FFS 🤦♀️
Stupidity on steroids.
Trump cannot unilaterally reopen Alcatraz as a prison. It’s a protected national landmark run by the National Park Service, and reopening it would require an act of Congress, environmental reviews, massive funding, and major legal hurdles. In short: it’s political theater, not policy.
That hasn't stopped him so far. But I am going out on a limb here to suspect he will get no cooperation from The City.
It's a Federal Site (National Park), not city controlled.
Yes, but it's in the Bay on a rock and you need the City to get to The Rock. Unless the Feds plan to go in and out via ship. That would be soooo economical. But - this will never happen; it's just today's outrage du jour.
From a construction POV the whole thing is ridiculous. It’s all kabuki.
I hear you. California will fight. He has too many crazy idea and this will be a stretch.
Congress will give him anything he wants… however, trump will decide it’s too difficult and takes up too much of his tiny brain power to bother with soon enough!
Did he just see the movie ‘Escape from Alcatraz’? Or maybe he talked to Clint Eastwood today…
I’m guessing it was The Rock, with Connery and Cage.
Try again too expensive too old too historic lol
So it would be perfect for don the con...
Sounds about right!!!!
Alcatraz too
What an asshole. God he’s so dumb! 🤦🏻♀️
Alcatraz Island is now a beautiful, desolate place, smothered in wildflowers, so of course Donny 2 Dolls wants to stuff it full of prisoners again. The facility was closed in 1963 after 29 years of operation, because of its excessive expenses and crumbling infrastructure.
“Donny 2 Dolls” is killing me. 😂
Hahahahahahahaha! That’s absolutely ridiculous. Obsolete and would take a decade to renovate….and it’s a National Park!
Came here to say this, and good luck forcing California to open it up for prisoners!!!
“The Rock”. Nic Cage at his finest.
Repeat criminal offenders... LIKE HIMSELF??
He is so fixated on prison and crime… meanwhile he’s literally a criminal 🤭
This is a MAJOR DISTRACTION!!!
It would take years, YEARS, to re open that place !!!!!!!
Please people, stay focused and don’t fall for the LIES!!
He just threw a 🔥💩🔥on our doorstep and we need to throw some water on it and slam the door.
C’mon Aaron!! Call this out for what it really is.
It’s a museum now
Has he been there? That’s not happening.
Only in his delusional mind!